Re: CHAT: Cockney Orkish as she is spoken.

On Tue, 23 Feb 1999 20:27:47 +0000 "Raymond A. Brown"
<raybrown@...> writes:
>If the film makers actually turned to Tolkien and saw what he said,
>they'd
>find a language which is not at all reminiscent of Cockney.  One of
>the
>most notable features of Cockney is that standard English [T] and [D]
>are
>pronounced [f] and [v] respectively.  In the Black Speech [T] is
>certainly
>attested as are [x] and [Q] which most Cockneys would not easily
>pronounce.
>We're even told that the Orkish /r/ was uvular like that of French and
>most
>modern German speakers.  I've *never* heard anything like an uvular
>/r/ in
>Cockney - and I hear Cockney very often. Indeed, looking through the
>Black
>Speech material this evening I see nothing particularly 'British'
>about it
>and certainly nothing remotely resembling Cockney.
>Ray.
>
So in Cockney the words "death" and "deaf" sound the same, like the way
some rappers say it?


-Stephen (Steg)

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