> Quoting Frank George Valoczy <valoczy@...>:
>
>> Hey all!
>>
>> I'm back after a lengthy absence......
>
> Wellcome!
>
Thanks!!
>> and I'm working on something extremely implausible and ridiculous :D
>
> Why am I not surprised?
*laughs*, am I THAT predictable??
>> How about for voiced labiodental stop?
>
> Isn't any. You might try [b_-] (retracted [b]) or [f_r] (raised [f]).
>
> At least, the IPA chart doesn't shade it as impossible, which an old
> textbook
> I saw did ...
>
Ok, I'll go with the former.
And I can articulate it just fine...and it's clearly distinguishable from
[b]...
>> Voiceless retroflex lateral fricative: /K`/ ? and voiced /K\`/ ?
>
> Aren't any. However, your suggestions are beautifully analoguous to other
> retroflex ~ dental/alveolar/postalveolar pairs.
That's where the inspiration came from... :D