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Time words and that ZBB game (was Re: Reviving an old tradition)

From:Paul Bennett <paul-bennett@...>
Date:Friday, February 10, 2006, 3:33
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 22:06:48 -0500, Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...>

> On 2/9/06, tomhchappell <tomhchappell@...> wrote: >> Also, "terms like" wouldn't necessarily be translations, would they? >> The traditional Japanese time-words, for instance, divide the period >> of daylight into six, instead of twelve, roughly-equal parts; these >> are about two hours long. If a conlang has terms for, say, fourths >> or sixths or eighths of a daylight-period, or for sixteenths or >> twentieths or twenty-fourths of a daylight-period, those will count >> as "terms like ... hour", right? > > I would certainly say so! Whether you use "hours" of which there are > twelve in a day or twelve in a nycthemeron, whether the hours are > truly equal in time or follow the sun, whether they are divided into > 60 "minutes" or 100 "centons" or 1080 "parts", they're all in the same > category.
I just want to throw in my Br'ga words for measuring time, which are divisions of "daytime" or "nighttime" into fractions of 1/2^n, each derived regularly from the ordinal n in question. I haven't yet got all the number words straight, but several of the systems are more or less described. Here's a thought: I'll throw open the floor to anyone who wants to play that ZBB game with Br'ga. I need roots, with syllable shape CV(C) of up to three syllables, where V is one of /a A Q e 7 o i M u a: A: Q: e: 7: o: i: M: u: @/ and C is one of /b B\ tS d r f g R\ h k l K L\ n p s S t cC v\ w x j s_m/ Note that //n// assimilates POA to the following consonant, even through a vowel. Word-final //n// assimilates to the preceeding consonant. Thus, //dineL\// becomes /diNeL\/ and //wAna:n// becomes /wAma:m/. I wouldn't know what to do with a word where the only consonant was //n// but my gut says it'd default to /n/. If it matters, you can use Quenya or Latin stress rules to imagine the sound of a word. I'll probably use them for number words in some way or another, or appropriate them for some other purpose if they really seem suitable for that purpose. So far, I have: 0 /nil/ 1 /cCQ/ 2 /s_m7n/ 3 /fu:v\/ 4 /R\u/ 100 /sento/ 1000 /mil/ a few /KuNig/ suffixed particles: nth /ku/ (last - n)th /dan/ 1/n /x@deL\/ 1/2^n /So:jM/ Paul


Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...>
Jim Henry <jimhenry1973@...>