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Re: Part 2 Why my con langs SUCK!!!

From:<jcowan@...>
Date:Friday, January 23, 2004, 13:32
Roger Mills scripsit:

> Which is exactly what written English does. I've suggested in that past > that the _underlying_ phonology of _all_ Engl. dialects (the standard-ish > one, at any rate) does have /r/ in all the positions where it is written.
I think you are right, but there are difficulties. What about ARSE, for example? The universal North American pronunciation is [&:s]; does this have underlying /r/ or not? Surely you don't want to claim that BASS, the fish, is underlyingly /bars/ or /b&rs/ (OE "baers").
> Intervocalic and final-prevocalic /r/ are almost always retained. > Pre-consonantal /r/ is the problem:
Final /r/ mostly patterns like pre-consonantal /r/, but what are we to do with "intrusive r" in non-rhotic dialects, where unhistorical r's appear in external sandhi by analogy to the historically lost ones? -- "There is no real going back. Though I John Cowan may come to the Shire, it will not seem jcowan@reutershealth.com the same; for I shall not be the same. http://www.reutershealth.com I am wounded with knife, sting, and tooth, http://www.ccil.org/~cowan and a long burden. Where shall I find rest?" --Frodo

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Peter Bleackley <peter.bleackley@...>
Tristan McLeay <zsau@...>
Roger Mills <romilly@...>
Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...>