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Re: Part 2 Why my con langs SUCK!!!

From:Roger Mills <romilly@...>
Date:Thursday, January 22, 2004, 17:41
Chris Bates wrote:
> Well, RP of course lol. I'm joking... I'm not sure, but I think a > compromise could be reached... people who speak non-rhotic dialects of > english will still know how to pronounce a world if we keep on sticking > rs where some people pronounce them,
Which is exactly what written English does. I've suggested in that past that the _underlying_ phonology of _all_ Engl. dialects (the standard-ish one, at any rate) does have /r/ in all the positions where it is written. Intervocalic and final-prevocalic /r/ are almost always retained. Pre-consonantal /r/ is the problem: but for each dialect it is predictable whether it is realized as 1. a rhotic-- 2. a schwa-like offglide-- 3. various other off-glides (e.g. [j]-like in the "bird=boyd" dialects)-- 4. length and (4a) sometimes change of vowel quality (5. have I missed anything?). If Engl. were not a written language, then at least comparison of all the dialects would point to the reconstruction of pre-cons. /r/ in "Common-English"
>Don't > know which dialect has the most vowel sounds).
Judging what Tristan and Adrian's descriptions, my vote would be: Australian (which does 4 & 4a above).

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