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Re: USAGE: 2nd pers. pron. for God

From:Arthaey Angosii <arthaey@...>
Date:Thursday, September 12, 2002, 8:35
Emaelivpahr Philip Newton:
>*Strictly* speaking, I think that I do, too -- /d@st/ but [dVst]. Since >slashes mark phonemes, and someone convinced me that [V] and [@] are >allophones of the same phoneme /@/; the stress or not of the syllable >determines the realisation.
What do the brackets mean, then, if slashes are for phonemes?
>Interesting. Do you have a pronunciation difference between "mention" >and "men shun"? I believe I do, and make it ["mEnS@n]/["mEnSn=] and >["mEn"SVn], respectively. So that's kind-of a minimal pair for me (not >quite, because different stress is involved).
I think I do "mention" as ["mEnSIn]/["mEnSn=] (depending on stress) and "men shun" as ["mEnS@n]. Interesting. Lect-comparisons are fun. :)
>You mean, where's my lect from? :)
Erm, yes. I meant that. Forgive the newbie. :P
>Cheers /tSI@z/, <-- not rhotic
I read (somewhere) that rhoticity is relatively rare (do I get points for the R's that unintentionally went into that sentence? <grin>). However, I couldn't find an actual statistic anywhere. Does someone have a number? -- Arthaey

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Thomas R. Wier <trwier@...>
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