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Re: Hypersimple & Dreadfully Unnatural Grammars

From:Orjan Johansen <oerjan@...>
Date:Wednesday, March 17, 1999, 22:02
On Wed, 17 Mar 1999, Edward Heil wrote:

> I've been thinking about this, and while at first I thought of these > RPN-ish grammars as dreadfully unnatural, they seem to be variations on > the following theme: >=20 > As symbols come in through your ears, you're sitting there building > conceptions. You try to fuse the meanings of those symbols together as > they come in. Sometimes a given meaning has several possible places > where other meanings could fit into it -- multivalent verbs are example=
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> of this. That's where you need things like case marking, morphological > or syntactic. >=20 > It strikes me that natlangs are probably nothing more than examples of > this process, optimized according to parameters we don't understand to > maximize communicative value and ease of use.
This reminds me of some thoughts I had during the great Center Embedding debacle. Basically, I thought that the reason why humans could not parse highly convoluted word orders such as these, is that not only are there a limite= d number of specialized slots available, but each slot can only hold one item at a time. So, for example, after parsing a subject that subject would have to be collected into a higher order slot (e.g. for a whole sentence) before another subject could be parsed. RPN and enter embedding word orders both suffer from problems under such restrictions. Greetings, =D8rjan.