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Re: articles

From:Chris Bates <chris.maths_student@...>
Date:Tuesday, February 1, 2005, 20:12
> > I've already wondered about this. IIRC, _ang_ indicates the > following argument being the agent and _ng_ indicates that > it's a patient. But what happens if you've got an > indefinite amount that is the agent resp. a definite amount > that is the patient? >
"ang" doesn't mark the agent. It marks the trigger, which is often the patient, beneficiary, location etc. Basically, it's similar but more complicated than the English passive: I was hit by the man here I is the subject, but I is *not* the agent of the verb to hit. Similarly, the trigger marks the "core" argument, but that argument may not be the actor depending on the marking on the verb. "ng" on the other hand (pronounced nang even though written "ng" btw) marks pretty much all other arguments except locatives, which take "sa". So definiteness doesn't feature (or rather isn't grammaticalized) in this system, apart from the fact that the choice of trigger heavily depends on which argument is most focused. Since new information is more likely to be focused than old information, there may be some correlations between definiteness and the choice of trigger although this does mean "ang" is in any way an article in the sense or English, German, French etc.