Re: my proposals for a philosophical language
From: | Muke Tever <mktvr@...> |
Date: | Wednesday, January 22, 2003, 13:09 |
From: "Joseph Fatula" <fatula3@...>
> After a bit of poking around, I found some interesting charts of sounds.
> Below are all the sounds common to English, Spanish, Arabic, and Chinese
> (Cantonese). Between these four languages, we have a substantial portion of
> the people in the world. All who speak any of these languages have these
> sounds:
>
> p t k
> m n
> f s h
> w l y
> a i u
I started such a venture once. The lang was called Mira and had a similar
inventory:
Consonants:
p t k
m n
f s w
(l/r)
Vowels:
i u
e o
a
b d and g would be rare (possibly loans-only, and loans might be particular
about l/r values). All the consonants would have a range of acceptable values
(not differentiating for voicing, say, or tenseness/laxness in the vowels)
I think e and o should be rarer too, hmm...
> That's 11 consonants and 3 vowels. Allowing CV syllables, that gives us 36
> possible syllables. But with only these three vowels, we have a great deal
> of distinctiveness between them. So let's expand that to:
>
> a i u
> ai au
>
> That gives us 5 vowels, including diphthongs. Or 60 syllables. If we allow
> CVC syllables, that increases the number to 720.
Mira had /oi/ and /eu/, as these were less likely to sound like or become /e/
and /o/ (than /ai/ and /au/ in any case). The syllable structure was CVn, so,
126 syllables (182 with all the consonants, I think)? Mono- and disyllabic
roots, according to this, numbered 8,281 possible.
Of course since I wasnt entirely serious, Mira had a nightmare orthography.
The orthography was a syllabary. All the characters were either long or round
(1's and 0's, if you will).
p t k d f s w m n l/r
a 0- 1- 0- 1- 0- 1- 0- 0- 1- 0-
e 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
i 1* 1* 1* 1* 1* 1* 1* 1* 1* 1*
o 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
u 0* 0* 0* 0* 0* 0* 0* 0* 0* 0*
eu 0X 1X 0X 1X 0X 1X 0X 0X 1X 0X
oi 0X 1X 0X 1X 0X 1X 0X 0X 1X 0X
where
"-" indicates a translucent character
"*" a shiny one (this being planned for an animation, it would actually sparkle)
"X" one whose color was on a gradient (how -eu's gradient differed from -oi's, I
forget)
as for what color goes for what character:
p = magenta
t = yellow
k = cyan
d = orange
f = red
s = aqua/green
w = black
m = violet/purple
n = brown
lr = indigo/dark blue
So "pa" would be represented by a round translucent magenta symbol, and "tu" by
a round shiny yellow symbol.
I told you it was nightmarish :x)
I may pull this out sometime, and build vocabulary on a hanziological scheme...
but not now, too busy :p
*Muke!
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