Re: North Wind and Sun in Obrenje

Jan van Steenbergen ta nugatu-r:

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> This is, at least, the case in Polish: im ... tym ... /tym/ is the
> instrumental case of the demonstrative pronoun /ten/ (M) or /to/ (N). I
> don't know where the word /im/ comes from, but its form suggests it is
> an instrumental, too.
From Old Polish _ji_ / _jen_ 'this'. Remnants of the pronoun you have in
declination of _on_ 'he':

Nom.        on
Gen.        jego
Dat.        jemu
Acc.        jego
Instr.      nim     (wrong decomposition: _s"n im_ > _z nim_)
Loc.        nim     (by analogy with Instr.)

so _im_ = _nim_.

> So, literally the expression could be best
> translated: "with what ... with that ..."
Rather 'with this... whit that...'. In other Slavonic languages there is
'with what... with that...', e.g. Russian _c<em... tem..._.

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