Re: Musical conlangs (was: Poetique)

--- Ray Brown <ray.brown@...> screeved:

> On Saturday, January 10, 2004, at 12:33 AM,
> Costentin Cornomorus wrote:
>
> > --- Tommie L Powell <tommiepowell@...>
> > wrote:
> >>> Of course, I'm not sure why Solresol is
> >>> restricted to three note words either.
> >>
> >> I know why I would restrict it to 3-note
> >> words
> >> (plus 1-note and 2-note words).  Here's why:
> >>
> >> First, 1-note plus 2-note plus 3-note words
> >> total 7+49+343=399 words, which is enough
> >> for general purposes (as in trade
> >> languages).
> >
> > Quite. And while I have no doubts about the
> > maths, I have grave doubts about basing the
> > number of letters per words on strictly
> > mathematical terms.
>
> But Solresol does _not_ limit words to three
> notes
> at most, nor AFAIK is the number of letters
> (notes?)
> per word based on strictly mathematical terms.
Yes, it has 1, 2, 3 and 4 syllable words. I'm
refering to Tommie's suggestion, not Solresol.

> > This seems to be a problem
> > with Solresol to begin with - why reinvent
> > that particular square wheel?
>
> I understand this?  What is the "square wheel"
> that is alleged to have been reinvented.
Limiting the number of syllables (i.e., to 7 in
Solresol's case), and the number of syllables per
word (whether it's three or nine, doesn't
matter).

> It happens in _all_
> languages (natlangs & conlangs), surely, that
Sure, but in most / all natlangs, there are
enough syllables that we never run into so many
homophones that the language becomes useless.
We're also able to compound, etc.

> > I also think that such limitations could only
> > lead to an unmusical sounding language like
> > Solresol apparently is!
>
> I don't see why this follows.
It doesn't necessarily follow from the previous.
This is another gripe entirely! :)

> > No one said this had to be a logical or
> > auxiliary language after all!
>
> What does "this" refer to?
The hypothetical new musiclang.

Padraic.


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