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Re: Active-Ergative langs (was Re: Ke'kh - degrees of volition)

From:The Gray Wizard <dbell@...>
Date:Wednesday, September 20, 2000, 18:18
> From: Doug Ball > > Daniel wrote: > > Teoh wrote: > > > >> Which natlangs are active? Are there any references on the Net > on those? > >> I'd like to see a "real", active natlang in action :-) > > > > Well, the ones I've looked at are Guaraní from SAmerica; The Caucasian > > langs Georgian and Ts'ova-Tush; Lakhota, Mohawk, Chickasaw and Eastern > > and Central Pomo from North America and the Austronesian lang Acehnese. > > > I was wondering if there is a difference between the terms ergative and > active. I thought that ergative referred to the following pattern:
[examples snipped] Doug, if you limit the discussion to morphological ergativity, you have pretty much summed up the difference in your examples. Ergative languages use the same case (absolutive) for S-function (subject of an intransitive predicate) and P-function ("object" of a transitive construction) arguments and a different case (ergative) for the A-function ("subject" of a transitive predicate) argument. This serves to discriminate the A- and P-function arguments of transitive predicates. This discrimination, however, is based solely on the syntactic relations (S-,A-,and P-function) of the arguments regardless of their semantic roles in any particular utterance. This patterning effectively follows a context-free syntactic template. Active languages, however, mark the arguments of a predicate according to the semantic role (agent, patient, experiencer, et. al.) they play and are thus context-sensitive. An often overlooked aspect of many ergative languages is that they are very often syntactically as well as morphologically ergative. While the former deals with the discriminatory application of structural case roles to the core arguments of a predicate within a simple clause and is thus "intraclausal", the latter deals with ergatively motivated syntactic constraints on clause combination and on the omission of coreferential constituents in clause combinations and is thus "interclausal". Languages which exhibit syntactic ergativity specify rules of coordination, relativization, and subordination that treat S- and P-function arguments in the same way and A-function arguments differently. This syntactic equivalence of S- and P-function arguments in clause linking operations is often referred to as the pivot-relation. The pivot relation (S=P) is the counterpart of the subject relation (S=A) in nominative/accusative languages. Thus, Syntactically accusative: John kissed Mary and left. (John kissed Mary and he left.) John[A] kissed Mary[P] and (he[S]) left. Allows the coordination and omission of coreferential NP (he) because they participate in the subject relation. Syntactically ergative: John kissed Mary and left. (John kissed Mary and she left) John[A] kissed Mary[P] and (she[S]) left. Allows the coordination and omission of coreferential NP (she) because they participate in the pivot relation. Syntactically ergative languages make much use of antipassive voice transformations which recast a transitive clause into a derived intransitive in which the underlying A-function argument becomes the S-function argument in order to shift the syntactic relations of the arguments to meet the pivot constraints of clause combination. Thus, John kissed-antip Mary and left (John kissed Mary and he left) John[S] kissed-antip Mary[Obl] and (he[S]) left. Is there an active analog to this kind of constraint? Do any active languages (nat- or con-) impose constraints on clause combination based on relations of semantic roles? Anyone! David David E. Bell The Gray Wizard dbell@graywizard.net www.graywizard.net "Wisdom begins in wonder." - Socrates