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Re: USAGE: [T] -> [f] (formerly ChineseDialectQuestion)

From:Thomas Leigh <thomas@...>
Date:Sunday, October 5, 2003, 15:39
Tristan wrote:

> Well, if it's pronounced the same as the sauce is, > then it's a /U/ in StdE. I understand there's a place > in America called 'Wooster', named after Worcester.
There are at least two. Here in Massachusetts we have the city of Worcester, pronounced /wUst@r/ (or, locally, /wUst@/). In Ohio, there's a town called Wooster /wUst@r/, home to a college of the same name, which incidentally is where my wife did her undergraduate studies. FWIW, in MA we also have a Gloucester (/glAst@r/ or /glAst@/) and a Leominster (/lEmInst@r/ or /lEmInst@/ with the accent on the first syllable, however you represent that in the hideousness that is X-SAMPA) -- I assume the latter is an inherited rightpondism as well? (BTW, I'm not sure of /@r/ -- how exactly do you represent the AmE syllabic rhotic thingy in words like "butter", "copper", "mister", etc.? That's what I was looking for.) Thomas

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