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Re: "write him" was Re: More questions

From:Stephen Mulraney <ataltanie@...>
Date:Sunday, November 30, 2003, 0:31
John Cowan wrote:
> Stephen Mulraney scripsit: > > >>But Ireland might as well be in the Pacific Ocean as >>far as most Britishers are concerned. > > > Perhaps a confusion between Ireland and New Ireland? :-)
Hmm... I walked into that one!
>>I thought that might be asked :). Have a butcher's 'ere: >>http://www.btinternet.com/~adlivingston/new-furniture.htm
> I consulted my local experts, who tell me that this is a "hutch" > or a "china cupboard".
"Hutch" I've never heard before, except (as Isadora pointed out) in "rabbit hutch".
>>>I share your view about "pot", and am frequently confused when my wife >>>(a Southerner) refers to an obvious pot as a pan. She calls all such >>>utensils pans, whereas for me "pan" has to be qualified as "frying pan" >>>or "cake pan" or such. >> >>Damn right! > > > I think the other posting about handles has merit as well: pots have > two handles by default, whereas pans have one or none at all.
I think two-handledness provides a useful prototype for thinking of pots, but I've certainly seen, and use, pots with one handle (of the kind found on a pan - a long "stem"). These tend to be smaller pots, though, since a single stem handle become increasingly unmanageable as the size of the - and the weight of its contents when full - increases. I have a fairly large, heavy pot that has one handle, and it's not something that could be mistaken for a (say, frying) pan. Incidently, a "pan" means a "frying pan" to me. I don't know of any other kind of "pan", so the addition of "frying" is redundant. I suppose I call a "cake pan" something else (a "cake tray", possibly!)
>>Maybe it bypassed Ireland? "Clerk" and the philosopher present similar >>problems to me, > > > I can't quite tell from this whether you say [klAr\k] in a rhotic > version of English pron., or whether you say [klr\=k] like Americans.
Ah, [kl@rk]'s the one (or something like [klark] in distinct enunciation). -- I just need enough Stephen Mulraney to tide me over ataltane@oceanfree.net until I need more http://livejournal.com/~ataltane -- Bill Hoest http://ataltane.net

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