Re: (Separable) suffixes?

On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 13:48:46 +0100, Philip Newton
><philip.newton@...> wrote:
>On 2/22/07, Jean-François Colson <fa597525@...> wrote:
>>>Philip Newton wrote:
>>>[snip]
>> "A red bolt flashed from his palm toward the elven lady, illuminating the
>> trees with a bloody light." (from Eragon)
>>
>> In the sentence above, "from" could be considered a verb suffixes. But what
>> about "toward" and "with"?
>
>Those aren't part of a phrasal verb. (Nor is "from" in your sentence, I'd say.)
>
>I was talking about things such as... I don't know, "put up", "do
>over", "take down", and the like.
I forgot to say that.
Since you can't say "A red bolt flashed his palm from", "flashed from" is not a
phrasal verb; since you can't say "A red bolt flasheed the elven lady
toward", "flashed toward" is not a phrasal verb; and since you can't
say "illuminating the trees a bloody light with", "illuminating with" is not a
phrasal verb.

But "Put up", as in "Clark put up the Christmas lights", is a phrasal verb;
because you can say "Clark put the Christmas lights up", and must say "Clark
put them up" and can't say "Clark put up them".  "Phrasal verbs" in English are
also called "separable verbs" and "two-part verbs"; when speaking of English
the three terms are synonymous AIUI.

What about "put up with"?  as in "That's the kind of nonsense I won't put up
with"?  Anyone have an analysis to offer?  What about "end with", as in "Never
use a preposition to end a sentence with"?