Re: (Separable) suffixes?

Subject: Re: (Separable) suffixes?
From: Jeff Rollin <jeff.rollin@...>
Reply-To: Constructed Languages List <CONLANG@...>
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 12:45:01 +0000
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>On 22/02/07, Jean-François Colson <fa597525@...> wrote:
>>"A red bolt flashed from his palm toward the elven lady, illuminating the
>>trees with a bloody light." (from Eragon)
>>In the sentence above, "from" could be considered a verb suffixes. But
>>what about "toward" and "with"?
>
>"from" here is not a VS, because it goes with "his palm" (thus in an AGGL,
>it might be something like "palmhisfrom"; same for "with" in "with 'his
>palm'" and "same for '...'"). A better example would be one where the prep
>can either follow the verb or appear at the end of the sentence, which is
>analogous to preceding the verb or appearing at the end of the sentence in
>German:
>"He took out his pen"/"He took his pen out".
So far three of us have said something like that; you were the first, I was the
third.  Do you think between us we made it clear what a "separable verb"
or "two-part verb" or "phrasal verb" is in English?  Do you think we also need to
explain "oblique arguments"?  That is, participants which are arguments, not
adjuncts, because they are actually required for the meaning of the verb, but
are oblique arguments, not direct core arguments, because they aren't
subjects nor direct objects nor indirect objects but require an adposition?
Like "Put the sugar in the coffee", where "put" requires a locative PP, even
though "put in" is in some circumstances analyzable as not a separable verb?