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Re: Some info on Ulm on the web

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Friday, December 27, 2002, 19:29
En réponse à Arthaey Angosii <arthaey@...>:

> > The auxilary separate from the main verb seems unusual to me. > Knowledgeable folk out there, help me out: does it seem strange to me > just > because it's termed an auxilary "verb" and therefore I want it to be > associated with the verb itself? I'm thinking that perhaps this is just > an > Englishism on my part, and that if the auxilary verb were instead called > a > mood marker... >
Well, even in English the auxiliary gets easily separated from the main verb. Just try to ask an question ;)) . As for whether the auxiliary can be separated from the verb, it is indeed language-dependent but very frequent. French does it with small objects: "je n'ai rien vu": I didn't see anything, literally "I not have nothing seen"). Germanic languages like Dutch and German do it constantly since in those languages, in a principal clause, the conjugated verb *must* be at the second place in the sentence while a non-finite form (participle or infinitive) must always be put at the end of the sentence (for what I know, the rule is stronger in Standard German than in Standard Dutch). So for instance a sentence like "Ik heb deze bloemen voor haar gekocht": "I have these flowers for her bought" is a perfectly normal word order, even in the spoken language (I am often surprised how they can keep track of things with such a word order. But then it's nothing compared to true SOV languages like Japanese ;))) ). And of course, there are VSO languages like Irish Gaelic and Arabic which, when they have a construction with an auxiliary verb, generally put the auxiliary first and the main verb after the subject, leading to a construction Aux-Subj-Verb-Obj. So in short, yes, it's an Englishism of your part to consider that it's strange for an auxiliary to be separated from the main verb :)) . Christophe. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr Take your life as a movie: do not let anybody else play the leading role.

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