Re: THEORY: Re : THEORY: Natural language change (was Re: Charlie and I)

>From Http://Members.Aol.Com/Lassailly/Tunuframe.Html wrote:
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> Dans un courrier dat=E9 du 20/09/99 06:09:10  , Thomas a =E9crit :
> >  people have been told to say "whom" as an objective relative pronoun=
,

> i'd think that the use of "who" even where acc/dat is expected is
> linked to putting (resumptive) prepositions in the end of the (sub)clau=
se :

I'm not going to get this right, but my 2 centimes say:
There are several items required for an unambiguous relative clause:
start marker, stuff, resumptive particle, more stuff, end marker.
That is too many, so every natlang merges or drops a few of them.

"the guy who i usedta date his sister comma is angry now"
         ^^^ ............. ^^^ ...... ^^^^^

This is illegal in American, we use something more complicated.
But it works just fine in Farsi, I have heard tale of it.

> "the man (who) i walk with (him)"
> "the man (who) i talk about (him)"
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> as if some head-resumptive pronoun were implied.
> so incredibly similar to current - yet very incorrect - french slang's =
trend :
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> "l'homme que je marche avec (lui)"
> "l'homme que je parle de lui".
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> note that cr=E9ole and asian languages already use that handy - and
> so beautiful to my own liking - syntactic device since ages.
I think the comma is the coolest device of all, but it is neglected.
I can almost-just feel a tone-lang coming.