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Re: Family project

From:Thomas R. Wier <artabanos@...>
Date:Thursday, August 2, 2001, 3:18
Amber Adams wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 01:12:02AM -0500, Thomas R. Wier wrote: > > How about toying with the palaeoclimatological toggle? What would > > happen, say, if the Black-Sea-Basin had not flooded around 7000 BC? > > Ok... I'm clueless about palaeoclimatology, I'm afraid, but > I'm curious just the same. What would happen?
Well, that's anyone's guess -- but that's the neat thing for us conlangers! I mean, it would definitely have had different affects on both macro- and micromigratory patterns of people going to and from the Near East. Just to review what happened historically: before 7000 or 7500 BC or so IIRC, the Black Sea was a vast inland freshwater lake. For thousands of years prior to that time, the world's icecaps had been melting and this had been causing all sorts of changes climatologically all over the world, causing the Mediterranean to rise 300 feet or so, and then spilling over first into the Sea of Marmara and then to Black Sea. We know that around that time there had been settlements along the shore of this inland lake, because just this year, the man who discovered the location of the Titanic discovered some remains on the bottom of the sea floor, which could not have gotten there except during a time when the sea was much lower. Now, think about this in terms of an issue in IE linguistics: the Urheimat, or original homeland of the IE peoples. This is a question fraught with controversy, but there are today two main theories that get attention. The first claims that the IE peoples were pastoralists who lived on the steppes of far eastern Europe and Central Asia; those that believe this theory locate the homeland somewhere around the lower Volga near its mouth into the Caspian sea. The second, newer and more controversial position is that the Indo-Europeans were, essentially, the first agriculturalists, and that their spread to other areas was aided by the immense demographic advantage of a constant food supply that agriculture would bring them. Renfrew, the primary proponent of the latter view, claims that this expansion happened many thousands of years earlier than those of the opposing theory, perhaps as early as 7000 BC or so. There's a lot of fudge room on both Renfrew's and his opponents' dates, but here's what all this means to us: if the Indo-Europeans were in fact located somewhere closer to Anatolia (and in my opinion, they have to have had some contact with that region to account for the linguistic similarities, due either to borrowing or inheritance, with some Caucasian protofamilies), that means they could easily have been affected by the flooding that we know happened. In our historical Earth, this flooding probably ended one route of direct contact with Eastern Europe, and therefore enforcing a certain linguistic break as well. What would have happened had that break not happened? The issue is general though for any attempt at creating a language family. Language is a social phenomenon, and you can't divorce it from events that happen to people in their social setting. If a catastrophe comes along and obliterates entire geographic regions, that's going to affect the ability of language families to live and die and spread. I also tend to agree with Dixon's theory of the punctuated equilibria that languages develop in: for long periods of time, languages are fairly static when transportation is extremely limited and slow. Then, something comes along, like massive climatological changes, and that makes whole peoples get up and move, because they have to or they'll die. (This is sometimes credited with the Völkerwanderung that overtaxed and eventually killed the Western Roman Empire.) Such movement often means contact between people speaking different languages, and perhaps also language replacement outright (as, say, happened when the Magyars settled in what is today Hungary). These are all issues, then, that could be taken into account when making a language family and its offspring. =================================== Thomas Wier | AIM: trwier "Aspidi men Saiôn tis agalletai, hên para thamnôi entos amômêton kallipon ouk ethelôn; autos d' exephugon thanatou telos: aspis ekeinê erretô; exautês ktêsomai ou kakiô" - Arkhilokhos