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Re: REQUEST: Engelang?

From:tomhchappell <tomhchappell@...>
Date:Monday, May 30, 2005, 12:13
--- In conlang@yahoogroups.com, "David J. Peterson" <dedalvs@G...>
wrote:
> Definition from Langmaker.com: "A conlang designed to achieve > pragmatic rather than artistic goals." > > http://www.langmaker.com/db/eng_engelang.htm > > This can obviously be part of the goal of an auxlang (or any > language, for that matter), but the way I think about is what the > language creator sits down to do when creating a language. > How I basically think about the various terms: > > (1) Auxlang: The creator of an auxlang sits down to create a > language that can easily be spoken by a large number of people, > in order to facilitate communication. The goal is to create a > useable language. > > (2) Artlang: The creator has an artistic vision either about how > a language should sound, what the basic structure of a language > should be, how a given language is an outgrowth of a specific > culture, or some combination of these or other factors. The goal > is to create (more or less) a work of art. > > (3) Engelang: The creator starts out with a problem, e.g., how > can a language with the fewest number of sounds work? How > can I make it so that the most basic concepts are expressed with > the fewest number of words? Can a language exist without > any pronouns? The creator, then, sets out to create a language > to solve these problems specifically, without taking into
consideration
> any aspect of language which doesn't relate to the problems they > set out to address. > > That's what I think of when I think of an engelang. All the
languages
> I've thought of that have features like an engelang, though, can > really be classified as artlangs or auxlangs or conlangs. I was
looking
> for one that's purely an engelang.
Right, then. Rick Morneau's Machine Translation Interlingua is one. But, is it a loglang? You wanted one that isn't. What's a loglang? Is an engelang that isn't a loglang a contradiction in terms? If not, R.A.M.'s MT Interlingua probably is one example of what you asked for. (Maybe not of what you wanted, but of what you asked for, if you're like me, and don't get your request exactly right the first time you ask.) Search on "Lexical Semantics", or "Machine Translation Interlingua", or "Richard A. Morneau", and you will find it. ----- Tom H.C. in OK

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