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Re: USAGE: YAGPT (was Re: YASPR -- Yet Another Swedish Pronunciation Rant (fuit: THEORY: NATLANGS: Phonology and Phonetics: Tetraphthongs, Triphthongs, Diphthongs))

From:Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>
Date:Monday, May 29, 2006, 11:38
Citerar Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>:

> On 5/29/06, Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...> wrote: > > Andreas Johansson skrev: > > > Quoting Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...>: > > > > > >> I am a semi-native speaker of German, > > >>but I've seen German |ei| transcribed as [ae] as well... > > > > > > [ae] is probably the commonest transcription in my experience. > > > > Yes, with corresponding [ao] and [o2] for the other two diphthongs. > > I presume you mean [o2] for |eu, äu|? That seems wrong for me; I've > seen it rendered [OY], though, and that seems to match what I say > pretty well.
FWIW, my German textbook writes [ae Ao O2] for |ei au eu|, whereas Duden writes |ai au Oy|. I've also seen [OY], but I can't recall seeing it with a mid-high initial element before. [o2] would be a flat diphthong, which feels wrong to me. Now, it's probably pronounced as [uQ] in some dialect just to spite me ... Andreas

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