USAGE: YAGPT (was Re: YASPR -- Yet Another Swedish Pronunciation Rant (fuit: THEORY: NATLANGS: Phonology and Phonetics: Tetraphthongs, Triphthongs, Diphthongs))

On 5/29/06, Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...> wrote:
> Andreas Johansson skrev:
> > Quoting Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...>:
> >
> >> I am a semi-native speaker of German,
> >>but I've seen German |ei| transcribed as [ae] as well...
> >
> > [ae] is probably the commonest transcription in my experience.
>
> Yes, with corresponding [ao] and [o2] for the other two diphthongs.
I presume you mean [o2] for |eu, äu|? That seems wrong for me; I've
seen it rendered [OY], though, and that seems to match what I say
pretty well.

If I feel my mouth's shape while saying, say, "Häuser", my mouth seems
to start in the same place as H_o_ttentotten and finish in the same
place as H_ü_tte, which I believe are [O] and [Y], respectively.

I hadn't seen [ae, ao] for |ei, au| before, but when pronouncing "mein
Haus", it does seem to be pretty close to the truth -- [main haus] is
"obviously" the same phonemes but sounds a bit off; perhaps a bit
exaggerated or something. [maen haos] seems quite a bit closer to how
I'd actually say it.

Cheers,
--
Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>

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