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Nuif (was: TRANS: Ideas)

From:Muke Tever <alrivera@...>
Date:Wednesday, March 20, 2002, 1:47
From: "Christophe Grandsire" <christophe.grandsire@...>
>> El impórtaant n'êt di avier mul idées, meis di viver oun. >> >> Interlin: >> el impórtaant n'êt di avier >> El im"pOrtA:nt nEht di "Avi:r >> DEF important NEG-3S to have.INF
<el> /El/ should probably be <ul> /Yl/... there's a change there I'm not too sure of yet.
>> mul idées, meis di viver oun >> myl i"dE@ mEjh di "vivr= un >> thousand idea.PL but to live.INF one
And I'm not entirely sure of the stress on <viver>.
> >A Romance lang with phonemic long vowels and syllabic r's?!!! Plus nice sounds >like schwa, /h/ and /H/!!! I want to know more!
Well, I've had the need of this lang for awhile but not really too many ideas for it till recently... Originally (and I may have posted some here before) I just used Spanish with all the final vowels removed. That gave me some of the syllabics which still remain even now that it has its own sound changes... ogel /"Oxl=/ "eye" (pl. ogles /"Oxl@/) vrader /"fradr=/ "brother" (pl. vradres /"vradr@/) (I'm not exactly sure what kind of /r/ Nuif has yet..) Yeah and I didn't like the way Spanish did some of its sound clusters so I did a little tweaking... nuet /noe_^t/ "night" (that's an oe-diphthong.. not the single sound) noun /nun/ "name" Also didn't like losing /f/... folaar /"fOlA:r/ "speak" fjer /"fj\Er/ "iron" The long vowels come from, hmm, stress shifts (the stressed vowels were a bit longer and stayed long when the stress moved away from them) and, hmm, final vowel loss in some of the verb declensions jo fole /j\O fO:l/ Anyway.. yeah, the /h/ comes from lost /s/, and possibly /h/ would be retained in original words (or at least relearned ones). The vowel (stressed /o/ I believe) that became <ue> in Spanish is <ui> /VH/ in Nuif. I don't think /H/ shows up too much otherwise. *Muke! --


Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>