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Re: Sound changes

From:H. S. Teoh <hsteoh@...>
Date:Monday, August 26, 2002, 2:34
On Sun, Aug 25, 2002 at 05:47:06PM +0000, Andreas Johansson wrote:
> Teoh wrote: > > > >On Sat, Aug 24, 2002 at 12:17:27PM +0000, Andreas Johansson wrote: > >[snip] > >> The Cantonese name _Ng_? Please tell that there's a vowel missing here > >> somewhere - a word [N=] ought to be illegal! > >[snip] > > > >No, I believe it *is* [N=]. In fact, my own mother tongue has it too. [N=] > >(rising tone) means "yellow". Although in my generation, it has become > >[u~j~i~] instead. > > > > Well, that leaves us with no choice - we must imprison all Cantonese > speakers as well as all older-generation speakers of your mothertongue > (which I fail to recall what it is) ... :-)
[snip] Well, imprisoned or not, we will continue to inflict upon the world our language, which differentiates between aspirated, non-aspirated, voiced, and unvoiced stops, differentiates between nasal and non-nasal vowels, and is TONAL (7 tones, no less!), and of course, which has cute words like [N=] (low rising) "yellow" (it is actually pronounced [?N=], if that makes you happy :-P) [m=] (low level) "not" (borrowed from Cantonese) [mN=] (low rising) "gate", in my generation it has mutated into [mu~i~]. [sN=] (high rising) "to waste" (which still remains that way in my generation) -- with the older generation it also has the obsolete meaning "to play". [tN=] (low falling) "hot", "scalding" [pN=] (low falling) "rice" [nN=] (high falling) "people", as in, [kaki.nN=] "own people", used as a way to identify oneself as part of an inner circle. [k_hN=] (mid level) "hole", "pit". Don't you just love the last two? And tonal too, no less. :-P T -- I am BOFH. Resistance is futile. Your network will be assimilated. -- darthaggie, K5