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Re: TERMINOLOGY: Re: another new language to check out

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Thursday, July 1, 2004, 19:03
Oops, a wrong movement sent the post when I wasn't finished. Sorry about 
that :(( .

>To: Constructed Languages List <CONLANG@...> >From: Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...> >Subject: Re: TERMINOLOGY: Re: another new language to check out >Cc: >Bcc: >X-TransWinRQD: <2505.0002> >X-Eudora-Signature: <Standard> >Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2004 21:01:13 +0200 > > >En réponse à Mark J. Reed : > > >>It seems to be mostly agglutinative, but it "feels" inflected to me. > >That's because it was consciously designed in such a way. Zamenhof himself >wrote in one of his letters that he designed Esperanto as an isolating >language (nearly all the affixes can be used as full words) but >masqueraded it by careful design as an inflected language, because he felt >Europeans wouldn't adopt it if it felt too foreign to them. And the world >being as it was more than a century ago, it was all that mattered at that time. >________________________________________________________________________ >En réponse à Chris Bates : > > >>Is it still a pidgin? I've been waiting for it to creolize before I try >>learning it. :( Only problem is, you need a community who actually use >>the language regularly for that to happen.... > >In my experience, it has never been a pidgin (but that's not a problem, >quite a few creoles around here have had no pidgin state). Creole is not >quite the right word, but fits if you're not too strict about its definition. > >And the community has used it enough for entire books' worth of >Esperantisms (expressions that are peculiar to Esperanto), play on words >untranslatable in other languages, turns of phrases that Zamenhof didn't >expect or use but are allowed and even encouraged by the rules of the >language, etc... to appear (they make the language a bit more difficult to >learn, but in an unbiased way, since those specificities are not >Euro-centric). My short stay within the Esperantist community has >convinced me that while the language will never become the world's IAL, it >will carry on being used by an international community that may not grow >much, but will not shrink either.
Christophe Grandsire. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr You need a straight mind to invent a twisted conlang.

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