Re: TERMINOLOGY: Re: another new language to check out
From: | Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...> |
Date: | Thursday, July 1, 2004, 19:03 |
Oops, a wrong movement sent the post when I wasn't finished. Sorry about
that :(( .
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>From: Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
>Subject: Re: TERMINOLOGY: Re: another new language to check out
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>En réponse à Mark J. Reed :
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>>It seems to be mostly agglutinative, but it "feels" inflected to me.
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>That's because it was consciously designed in such a way. Zamenhof himself
>wrote in one of his letters that he designed Esperanto as an isolating
>language (nearly all the affixes can be used as full words) but
>masqueraded it by careful design as an inflected language, because he felt
>Europeans wouldn't adopt it if it felt too foreign to them. And the world
>being as it was more than a century ago, it was all that mattered at that time.
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>En réponse à Chris Bates :
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>>Is it still a pidgin? I've been waiting for it to creolize before I try
>>learning it. :( Only problem is, you need a community who actually use
>>the language regularly for that to happen....
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>In my experience, it has never been a pidgin (but that's not a problem,
>quite a few creoles around here have had no pidgin state). Creole is not
>quite the right word, but fits if you're not too strict about its definition.
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>And the community has used it enough for entire books' worth of
>Esperantisms (expressions that are peculiar to Esperanto), play on words
>untranslatable in other languages, turns of phrases that Zamenhof didn't
>expect or use but are allowed and even encouraged by the rules of the
>language, etc... to appear (they make the language a bit more difficult to
>learn, but in an unbiased way, since those specificities are not
>Euro-centric). My short stay within the Esperantist community has
>convinced me that while the language will never become the world's IAL, it
>will carry on being used by an international community that may not grow
>much, but will not shrink either.
Christophe Grandsire.
http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr
You need a straight mind to invent a twisted conlang.
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