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Re: TERMINOLOGY: Re: another new language to check out

From:Joe <joe@...>
Date:Thursday, July 1, 2004, 19:08
>> >> En réponse à Chris Bates : >> >> >>> Is it still a pidgin? I've been waiting for it to creolize before I try >>> learning it. :( Only problem is, you need a community who actually use >>> the language regularly for that to happen.... >> >> >> In my experience, it has never been a pidgin (but that's not a >> problem, quite a few creoles around here have had no pidgin state). >> Creole is not quite the right word, but fits if you're not too strict >> about its definition. >> >> And the community has used it enough for entire books' worth of >> Esperantisms (expressions that are peculiar to Esperanto), play on >> words untranslatable in other languages, turns of phrases that >> Zamenhof didn't expect or use but are allowed and even encouraged by >> the rules of the language, etc... to appear (they make the language a >> bit more difficult to learn, but in an unbiased way, since those >> specificities are not Euro-centric). My short stay within the >> Esperantist community has convinced me that while the language will >> never become the world's IAL, it will carry on being used by an >> international community that may not grow much, but will not shrink >> either. > >
Surely, a Creole is a Pidgin that is spoken as a firstl language by some people... Is Esperanto?
> > http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr > > You need a straight mind to invent a twisted conlang.

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John Cowan <jcowan@...>
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