Re: proto-romance questions

On Tue, 14 Dec 1999, J. Barefoot wrote:

>Well what'dy'a know? I went to the university library and they had exactly
>what I needed! "Proto-Romance Phonology" by Robert Hall, who my French
>insists on calling Bob {cue creepy music}; it has lots of examples. Perhaps
>I'll post a proto-Romance vocabulary to my webpage. Anyway, not having
>studied Latin really, I have some questions:
>1) the -ere verbs (so my sources say) were all stressed on the stem. Do the
>other verb classes have (semi-)regular stress like this? Specifically, are
>the -are verbs stressed on the ending? Because of stress and
>diphthongization rules in my current sketch, the -ere     (-ara) verbs are
>merging with the -are (-aira), by analogy of inflection, not infinitve form.
>Okay, so I have a question. Let me tell y'all what I've got so far. {cough
>*peer review?* cough}
>
>stops: p t k b d g {pi tau kappa beta delta gamma} <-- Greek orthography!
I like that (the Greek orthography)!  Kind of reminiscent of Romanian
when it wasn't using Roman letters.

>fricatives: f s sh v z zh h {phi sigma sigma* upsilon zeta zeta* breathy
>diacritic} *still iffy on the orthography of /S/ and /Z/; probably
>sigma+iota and zeta+iota, as /S/ and /Z/ were originally allophones of /s/
>and /z/, becoming contrastive by borrowing(?) "h" also reintroduced by
>borrowing
>affricates: /tS/ {kappa+iota / kappa+eta}
>nasals: m n {mu nu} Do many languages have a palatal m?
>liquids: l r {lambda rho}
>semivowels: y {iota}
>vowels: i {iota}   u {omega}
>        e {eta}    o {omicron}
>              a {alpha}
>
>
>
>essere > easara > easra > yasra "to be"
>su     sumu
>es     esi
>est    sud (nt>d)
Why is the -t kept in 3rd sing. here but not in adaira?  I note it's
retained in your conjugating below.  Could be an irregularity, but I'm
just asking!

>
>andare > adaira "to go"
>vo     adamu
>vas    adasi
>va     vad
Always a favourite for irregularities.  Ir (go) in Kernu is likewise
based on suppletive roots:

ioc     ve'mus
ves     veth
ve      vens
fe      iont

(third line is 3rd pers. masc. forms, fourth line is the feminine
forms)

>lingu_a >lengba > leamba > leaba "tongue"
>kingere > kienara /tSenara/ "to don"
>u_irde > bierda "green"
>die > zia /Za/ "day"
>kria're > kriaira "to create"
>amare > amaira "to like"
>
>first (and so far only) conjugation verbs : -ara and -aira
>-ara - stress on stem
>-aira - stress on ending
>
>kiendara
>kie'ndo    kie'ndamu
>kie'ndas   kie'ndasi
>kie'ndat   kie'ndad
>
>kriaira
>krio'    kria'mu
>krias'   kria'si
>kriat'   kriad'
>
>A sentence: Amo' kriai'ra una lea'ba!
E ne sorry nois meck? (Don't we all!)  Not a literal translation, but
close enough.

Padraic.

>
>Jennifer
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