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Re: proto-romance questions

From:nicole perrin <nicole.eap@...>
Date:Wednesday, December 15, 1999, 1:54
J. Barefoot wrote:
> > Well what'dy'a know? I went to the university library and they had exactly > what I needed! "Proto-Romance Phonology" by Robert Hall, who my French > insists on calling Bob {cue creepy music}; it has lots of examples. Perhaps > I'll post a proto-Romance vocabulary to my webpage. Anyway, not having > studied Latin really, I have some questions: > 1) the -ere verbs (so my sources say) were all stressed on the stem. Do the > other verb classes have (semi-)regular stress like this? Specifically, are > the -are verbs stressed on the ending? Because of stress and > diphthongization rules in my current sketch, the -ere (-ara) verbs are > merging with the -are (-aira), by analogy of inflection, not infinitve form. > Okay, so I have a question. Let me tell y'all what I've got so far. {cough > *peer review?* cough} > > stops: p t k b d g {pi tau kappa beta delta gamma} <-- Greek orthography! > fricatives: f s sh v z zh h {phi sigma sigma* upsilon zeta zeta* breathy > diacritic} *still iffy on the orthography of /S/ and /Z/; probably > sigma+iota and zeta+iota, as /S/ and /Z/ were originally allophones of /s/ > and /z/, becoming contrastive by borrowing(?) "h" also reintroduced by > borrowing > affricates: /tS/ {kappa+iota / kappa+eta} > nasals: m n {mu nu} Do many languages have a palatal m? > liquids: l r {lambda rho} > semivowels: y {iota} > vowels: i {iota} u {omega} > e {eta} o {omicron} > a {alpha} > > essere > easara > easra > yasra "to be" > su sumu > es esi > est sud (nt>d) > > andare > adaira "to go" > vo adamu > vas adasi > va vad > > lingu_a >lengba > leamba > leaba "tongue" > kingere > kienara /tSenara/ "to don" > u_irde > bierda "green" > die > zia /Za/ "day" > kria're > kriaira "to create" > amare > amaira "to like" > > first (and so far only) conjugation verbs : -ara and -aira > -ara - stress on stem > -aira - stress on ending > > kiendara > kie'ndo kie'ndamu > kie'ndas kie'ndasi > kie'ndat kie'ndad > > kriaira > krio' kria'mu > krias' kria'si > kriat' kriad' > > A sentence: Amo' kriai'ra una lea'ba! > > Jennifer >
I really really like the way this Romance language came out, Jennifer, it seems really cool. I can't really explain why, but...How did you come up with the sound changes and conjugations and stuff? Can we see your rules? I always try to make up my own Romance language but it never sounds quite right - I'm jealous! So, where is this language spoken? (Presumably near Greece, right?) And is it influenced by Greek in other ways besides alphabetically? It seems really interesting. Nicole -- nicole.eap@snet.net http://nicole.conlang.org