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Re: The English/French counting system (WAS: number systems from conlangs)

From:Pavel Iosad <edricson@...>
Date:Monday, September 15, 2003, 18:58
Hello,

> Some days ago, I wondered about > why English/German/French etc. > (I guess all European languages)
Umm, no. T ex Welsh 12 is dau ar ddeg, i. e. twoteen.
> have separate names for 11 and 12: eleven, twelve; >elf, zwölf; onze, douze, instead of oneteen, twoteen; > einzehn, zweizehn; dix et un, dix et deux. We count > in tens, but have numbers which you can count in > twelves with.
The Germanic ones come from one and two + *lib, meaning "rest, excess, something which is left". So it's "one extra [from ten]" and "two extra". The Gothic ones are ainlif and twalif, cf. bileiban "to be left" Pavel -- Pavel Iosad pavel_iosad@mail.ru Nid byd, byd heb wybodaeth --Welsh saying

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