Re: Learning languages

In a message dated 2004:03:12 04:51:50 AM, romilly@EGL.NET writes:

>Based on my experience as a learner, teacher and observer of learners of
>Indonesian, I would say yes-- it's an easy language to get into quickly,
>and Indonesians (maybe not Malaysians) are so accustomed to hearing a huge
>range of good<-->bad spoken language that they are very forgiving of
foreigners'
>efforts.
    Seems that according to all reports, neighboring pidgin/creoles like
Bislama and Tok Pisin are also likewise quite forgiving. Esp'ly Bislama. And we
are talking of one of the _densest_, per capita, linguistically rich & diverse
regions of the world...

    OBCONLANG: I gotta figger out how-to have this quality in goomeelego
without goin' too gonzo with its mangalang character or upsetting its odd
Novial-like balancing act of naturalism and auxlang-ish artifice.

= ¡ gw'araa legooset caacaa !
    ¡ reez'arvaa. saalvaa. reecue. scoopaa-goomee en reezijcloo ! =
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    Save, Salvage, Recover, Scavenge and Recycle!]

In a message dated 2004:03:12 07:19:51 AM, dansulani@BEZEQINT.NET writes:

>    I  more or less agree with what's already been said by everyone.
>Of course the best way of learning a lang is to be fully immersed in it
>24/7 in a country where it is spoken.
    Yepyep, "go native" like bein' thrown into the deep end of the pool to
learn how to swim. Swim or sink, baby...

> But even then, you can't learn to get around in the language by merely
reading >books that teach the formal language.

    In America, only formal language I _hear_ nowadays is in academia. And
even that is short supply...

<SNijP>

>    This is just an example, but IMHO, it holds true for quite a bit of
>lang _use_.
    I would venture to even say it is the general norm of everyday language &
lexicon. But being ever-cautious gamblin' sort, I am not bettin' on this...
as language use is more-than-quite situational and contextual.

>The books, tapes, etc. usually just give you a basic handle on the lang.
>For actual use, you need to investigate areas of lang that usually don't
>show up in formally prepared materials. For example,
>when learning Hebrew, in order to get a wide vocabulary,
>I read things that, today, I won't allow into my house!
    ROTFLMAO so true. Which reminds me ...
    CHRISTOPHE!!!!: You know of any manga that is in Romaji? (I mighta asked
this before, but I don't recall diddley in this regard... I plead
hyper-monkey-brainfart-ness due to viral infection of the liver [BTW my PSA of the day:
May is Hepatitis C Awareness Month...be a Hep Cat, screw the hype, and get the
raw facts...cdc.gov...liverfoundation.org])

>You may not choose to use that type of language, (but then again, you never
>know when you _will_ need it) but when others do, it may be
>important to know what they are saying.
/shapeshift/timewarp    ::imitatin' gravelly cigarette-damaged voice of a
hard-fought Resistance partisan circa WW2:: Tres bien, mon ami.

    It mayhaps be as important as one's own life and limbs... or one's entire
ethnic group or country... or even humankind at large...

/shapeshift/timewarp ::imitating bi-lingual Irgun fighter circa 1937-1948::
Never forget, never forgive, never again! Hayom, Chayim!

>likehsna rtem zuv tikuhnuh auag inuvuz vaka'a.
>
>A word is an awesome thing.
    Word that immediately popped up into my
screamin'-streamin'-MonkeyBrainies: _Golem_.
    ::WiCKeD GRiM GRiN::



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