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Re: Koningin

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Monday, June 10, 2002, 8:13
En réponse à Jan van Steenbergen <ijzeren_jan@...>:

> --- Christophe wrote: > > > But that's the main problem. Most Dutch people pronounce [N] only at > > the end of a word. Cases like |koningin| are an exception to that > rule. > > That's not true! Just look at common words like "zingen", "lange", > "bungelen", "hengel"... >
True, I forgot those ones. But most often they are followed by a schwa sound, unlike |koningin|. That may make a difference.
> > Yeah, but then you speak about dialects. An Amsterdammer would > probably > say [kAun@xIn'] or something alike. >
No, all the ones who were asked answered in ABN, not in dialect.
> > I'm surprised. >
My friend was not.
> > I see nothing abnormal about [N] in the middle of word. See above. >
Yes, but you are already a linguistically minded person. Moreover you speak fluently at least two other languages (or three or four? I don't remember exactly). One thing I had to realise is that we are in minority here. For the average "man on the street", and despite the presence of other words that also feature a middle [N], the word |koningin| specifically is difficult. Probably the fact that the suffix is [in] instead of a more common schwa. Christophe. Take your life as a movie: do not let anybody else play the leading role.


Jan van Steenbergen <ijzeren_jan@...>