Re: Koningin

En réponse à Jan van Steenbergen <ijzeren_jan@...>:

>  --- Christophe wrote:
>
> > But that's the main problem. Most Dutch people pronounce [N] only at
> > the end of a word. Cases like |koningin| are an exception to that
> rule.
>
> That's not true! Just look at common words like "zingen", "lange",
> "bungelen", "hengel"...
>
True, I forgot those ones. But most often they are followed by a schwa sound,
unlike |koningin|. That may make a difference.

>
> Yeah, but then you speak about dialects. An Amsterdammer would
> probably
> say [kAun@xIn'] or something alike.
>
No, all the ones who were asked answered in ABN, not in dialect.

>
> I'm surprised.
>
My friend was not.

>
> I see nothing abnormal about [N] in the middle of word. See above.
>
Yes, but you are already a linguistically minded person. Moreover you speak
fluently at least two other languages (or three or four? I don't remember
exactly). One thing I had to realise is that we are in minority here. For the
average "man on the street", and despite the presence of other words that also
feature a middle [N], the word |koningin| specifically is difficult. Probably
the fact that the suffix is [in] instead of a more common schwa.

Christophe.

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