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Re: Changing CXS (Was: Re: Representing tones in X-Sampa; Khmer phonemes (for Tim May))

From:Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...>
Date:Thursday, January 29, 2004, 20:51
At 16:14 28.1.2004, Tristan McLeay wrote:

>[r\`] already *is* the retroflex approximant.* In kosher X-SAMPA, [r`] is >for whatever reason a retroflex tap or flap (i.e. retroflex [4]).
Strangely enough [4] and [r`] share a row in the IPA chart is spite of the fact that [4] is always a tap and [r`] is always a flap. While I can make an alveolar flap I'm sure I cann't make a retroflex tap, since a tap is by definition apical, and a retroflex is by definition sublaminal! I suggest introducing a 'trill' diacritic -- the best choice would certainly be [_r] but it is taken --, since Unicode contains a raised _r_ which is not kosher IPA anyway. Perhaps [_`] in spite of its ugliness could be a workable sign, since it will be required darn seldom anyway. And I really ought to get my CXS-to-Unicode converter updated and published. So much to do, so short the time... (Wasn't that an Old English proverb? /BP 8^) -- B.Philip Jonsson mailto:melrochX@melroch.se (delete X) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~__ A h-ammen ledin i phith! \ \ __ ____ ____ _____________ ____ __ __ __ / / \ \/___ \\__ \ /___ _____/\ \\__ \\ \ \ \\ \ / / / / / / / \ / /Melroch\ \_/ // / / // / / / / /___/ /_ / /\ \ / /'Aestan ~\_ // /__/ // /__/ / /_________//_/ \_\/ /Eowine __ / / \___/\_\\___/\_\ Gwaedhvenn Angeliniel\ \______/ /a/ /_h-adar Merthol naun ~~~~~~~~~Kuinondil~~~\________/~~\__/~~~Noolendur~~~~~~ || Lenda lenda pellalenda pellatellenda kuivie aiya! || "A coincidence, as we say in Middle-Earth" (JRR Tolkien)