Re: Changing CXS (Was: Re: Representing tones in X-Sampa; Khmer phonemes (for Tim May))

Quoting Tristan McLeay <zsau@...>:

> > ObTangent: On the subject on refining the CXS, what would people say about
> > completifying the correspondence between the alveolar and dental series by
> > reassigning [r`] to a retroflex trill and introducing [r\`] for the
> retroflex
> > approximant? Besides making it easier to transcribe my 'lect, it does,
> IMHO,
> > improve the mnemonic properties of the scheme. I've been using that, in
> the
> > mistaken belief it was kosher X-SAMPA, anyway, without anyone complaining!
>
> [r\`] already *is* the retroflex approximant.* In kosher X-SAMPA, [r`] is
> for whatever reason a retroflex tap or flap (i.e. retroflex [4]). Your
> proposal would involve (a) creating a new symbol [4`] for retroflex tap or
> flap and (b) redefining [r`] as a symbol for which there is no IPA
> equilavent. My above disclaimers apply. If people (looks at Andreas who
> has suggested *so* many changes) want too many changes, I would suggest
> creating a new ASCII-IPA that fixes up as many people's problems as
> possible and wondering if it gets accepted...
You see - the current scheme is too confusing for my poor brain! (And I'm sure
someone told me [r`] was the approximant recently; grumble, grumble.)

I do have a selection of old and not-so-old ASCII-IPA schemes lying around, in
varying states of completion. I could fairly quickly have a presentable draft
ready, if there's interest. Of course, my schemes primarily fix my problems,
so ideally people would then tell me of their problems, so that they too,
hopefully, may get solved.

                                                  Andreas

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