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Re: Question about a grammatical term

From:Jeff Jones <jeffsjones@...>
Date:Thursday, October 3, 2002, 0:23
On Wed, 2 Oct 2002 19:54:03 -0400, Roger Mills <romilly@...> wrote:

>David Peterson wrote: > As compounds become more common, they switch to the normal compound
stress, where the first word in the compound gets normal stress, and the second loses all its stress.
> > There seems to be a dialect split in the US regarding "chicken soup"
(and other flavors, though chicken is most widespread)-- CHICKen soup (lotsa folks) vs. CHICKen SOUP (me and others). I first encountered the compound-stress form when living in NYC, where I attributed it (perhaps wrongly) to Yiddish influence and the fact that, stereotypically, chicken soup was sort of a panacea for all ills in Yiddish culture.
>
Well I must say that never in my life have I heard an L1 English speaker eliminate _all_ stress from the 2nd word. It always takes on secondary stress. I have even heard compounds where the 2nd word had primary stress and the 1st secondary stress (again, L1 English speakers, but not Southerners in this case). Jeff