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Re: Noun Cases

From:Javier BF <uaxuctum@...>
Date:Sunday, February 29, 2004, 14:12
>> I believe I found the answer after asking the question. I found a list >> of cases. It defines Causative as "indicating causation by" and >> Instrumental as "indicating means by which." So I guess it's the >> difference between "he was hit BY a tree" and "he was hit WITH a tree"? >> Or could Instrumental be used for both of these? > >That's how I understood it. Causative and Instrumental are also used in
the
>conlang I'm currently working at, Ayeri.
The one in "he was hit BY a tree" is just good ol' ergative, or call it "agentive" if it feels less heretic than using the term "ergative" outside the context of 'ergative' languages. According to this(*) glossary, the causative is the case that marks the cause of the situation; that is, what would answer the question "Why?" ("why" is in a way the causative form of "what"), which is expressed in English by "because of" and "for". It exists as a morphological case for example in Basque: "ZerGATIK egin duzu? Arrazoi askoRENGATIK" (whY have you done it? FOR many reasons), "HorrENGATIK zigortu naute" (they have punished me BECAUSE OF him/her [the one there]), "HorrEGATIK zigortuko zaitugu" (we will punish you FOR that). Though in Basque it is usually called "motivative" and I think the label "causative" would suit better a case that marked the 'causer' of a causative verb ("He made me do it" might be expressed in some language as "he-CAUSER I-ERG it-ACC do-PAST", something like "I did it _caused by_ him"). Cheers, Javier (*) http://www.sil.org/linguistics/GlossaryOfLinguisticTerms/WhatIsCausativeCas e.htm

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