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Re: Noun Cases

From:Nik Taylor <yonjuuni@...>
Date:Sunday, February 29, 2004, 4:04
David Peterson wrote:
> The dictionary form will depend on the language. The "base" form is > generally the nominative in nominative/accusative languages and the > absolutive in ergative/absolutive languages.
Of course, many languages use a zero suffix for nominative or absolutive, as the case may be, thus, in those languages, the citation form would be formally equivalent to the stem. Indeed, in a sense, English is an example, although the cases are only "possessive" and "nonpossessive". In Japanese, the dictionary form is the word with no case particles, but then, the nominative and accusative particles can often be dropped in certain contexts. Still, you could imagine a language in which at one stage such case-marking was optional (at least in the sense that there are contexts where case can be unmarked, it may, of course, be under very specific conditions), and thus the dictionary form was the bare stem, but then at a later stage, case-marking became obligatory, so that the bare stem could *never* be used in a sentence. Nevertheless, you'd likely have an intermediate stage where the bare stem would still be used as the dictionary/citation form. However, this probably wouldn't last very long, and after a few generations, the nominative form would likely take over as a dictionary/citation form. In addition, Michael Martin wrote:
> > Also on the subject, what is the difference between the causative and > instrumental cases, or is there a difference?
I've never heard of a causative case, but I would imagine that it would be a case that was only used for the causee, as in "The mother made HER SON eat the peas", whereas the instrumental would be used in a sentence like "The boy ate the peas WITH A FORK". Some languages use instrumental to mark the causee, while others use other oblique cases, such as dative (I would say that English could probably be considered, syntactically, to be in that category, as the causee acts very much like a normal indirect object) -- "There's no such thing as 'cool'. Everyone's just a big dork or nerd, you just have to find people who are dorky the same way you are." - overheard ICQ: 18656696 AIM Screen-Name: NikTaylor42

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