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Re: English |a|

From:Muke Tever <hotblack@...>
Date:Tuesday, January 18, 2005, 3:54
Roger Mills <rfmilly@...> wrote:
>> "Dog" is pronounced 'dawg' in NYC also.
Not with the diphthong, certainly, which is also to be found...
> Whether we have /o/ or /O/ before /r/ is debatable. One could call it > "lowered o" or "raised O"; in fact in the IPA I learned in the 60s, there > was a special symbol for this intermediate vowel, but it seems to have been > eliminated.
On http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cot-caught_merger It was suggested that, in my case anyway, it's indeed better /o/, and I've come to agree with that: [o] and [O] don't contrast before /r/ (except when compounds are involved, like "O-ring" vs. "boring"), and it saves on the unusuality of a phoneme that only occurs in one position. (For those who may have an [o]/[O] contrast before /r/, I suppose the situation would be different...) *Muke! -- website: http://frath.net/ LiveJournal: http://kohath.livejournal.com/ deviantArt: http://kohath.deviantart.com/ FrathWiki, a conlang and conculture wiki: http://wiki.frath.net/

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Roger Mills <rfmilly@...>
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