Re: Ebisédian is fun! (Was: Re: Ygyde is fun!)
From: | bob thornton <arcanesock@...> |
Date: | Saturday, January 8, 2005, 6:33 |
--- "H. S. Teoh" <hsteoh@...> wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 06:21:30PM -0500, Andrew
> Nowicki wrote:
> > Memorizing euroclone vocabulary is as much fun as
> memorizing a phone
> > book. Only a masochist can enjoy learning Lojban's
> grammar.
>
> Indeed! Learning auxlang vocabulary is as dull as
> enumerating all
> combinatorial possibilities of baby-talk sounds.
> Only a nihilist can
> enjoy learning grammar so blatantly obvious it might
> as well not
> exist!
>
>
> > Ygyde is different! The essence of Ygyde is
> playing with words.
> > Suppose that V = vowel and C = consonant. Any word
> having structure
> > of VCVCV, CVCVCV, and VCVCVCV is a compound word
> that may have a
> > meaning.
> [...]
>
> Ebisédian is different! The essence of Ebisédian is
> playing with your
> mind. For example, _ki_ = "red", _ci'_ = "green",
> and _roi'_ = "blue".
> These words instantly makes sense, right? But is
> there such a thing as
> common sense in the Ferochromon? Of course not! _ki_
> is also a Deeply
> Significant Word in Ebisédi philosophic parlance.
> When the
> philosophers speak of red things, they are not
> necessarily physically
> red! And exactly what qualities are intended by such
> a usage is, of
> course, completely arbitrary and beyond human
> comprehension. But it is
> nevertheless red! Plus, the same word _ki_ is also
> used in Ferochromon
> physics to denote a certain quantum particle. And
> lest you be deceived
> by this simple statement that, perhaps, Ebisédian is
> understandable
> after all, keep in mind that given enough energy,
> _ki_ can transmute
> into _ci_ and _roi'_ spontaneously! Furthermore,
> given even more
> energy, it can transmute into something called
> _kioo'si_, which is an
> infinitely small unit of space with a finite volume
> that tiles all
> space! So when you say _ki_, does it mean 'red' as
> in the color 'red',
> or philosophically 'red' as in the philosophical
> color 'red', or 'red'
> as in the quantum particle 'red', which is to be
> distinguished from
> the quantum space 'red', which is not quite the same
> thing as 'red
> space'? I'll tell you a secret: nobody knows! But
> they are all 'red'
> nevertheless. Isn't that fun?
>
> And to top it off, _ki_ is written with the
> character that descended
> from the pictograph of something called the Funny
> Plant, which is a
> plant that walks around on its lower branches and
> sucks nutrients
> from its tube-roots! Such a deeply-significant word
> is actually
> associated with humour! (You can blame the scribes
> for this one.)
>
> And as if this weren't enough, _ki_ is also used as
> one of the noun
> association markers, which nobody can possibly
> understand! What might
> an associated noun marked with _ki_ refer to? Your
> judgment is as good
> as mine! When combined with Ebisédian's decidedly
> sideways pronominal
> system, you might as well resort to
> clicking-and-pointing instead of
> pronouns to make it clear who you're referring to!
> But even then, in
> the Ferochromon, does pointing to someone
> disambiguate who that
> someone might be? Well, that depends! If you're in
> the Ether, it
> doesn't, because space is liquid!
>
> Also, Ebisédian is not encumbered by such red tape
> as sensibility;
> given a verb and a bunch of nouns in various cases,
> the rules for
> interpreting them are so unintuitive you might as
> well just understand
> it however you like!
>
> And last of all, anything with the structure CVCVCV,
> VCVCVC, CVCVCVC,
> or some arbitrary permutation thereof, is, in fact,
> a word! Can you
> imagine the audacity with which the Ebisédi speak
> their language, in
> which such things are in spite of the overwhelming
> incomprehensibility
> of all descriptions of Ebisédian actually words! I
> mean, this fact
> alone should convince you that you'd rather recite
> the list of
> botanical diseases inflicting your backyard in
> alphabetical order!
> (And don't get me started on Ebisédian alphabetical
> order, which only
> a computer program can get right!)
>
> :-P
>
Your concept of fun seems to run on the slightly
masochistic side, yes?
=====
-The Sock
"My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings:
Look upon my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
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