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Re: Llirine: How to creat a language

From:Andreas Johansson <and_yo@...>
Date:Tuesday, December 4, 2001, 19:41
Cheng Zhong Su wrote:
> Andreas Johansson wrote: What do you mean by >"phonetic type"? You're > > obviously not meaning "phoneme", > > since English don't have even close to four houndred > > of them (it's closer to > > forty, but I'm to lazy to check right now, and it > > varies from dialect to > > dialect in any case). Syllables? Assuming twenty > > possible onsets, ten > > possible centers (vowels) and twenty possible codas > > (all underestimates of > > the English inventories), we land on 4000 possible > > syllables. So what are > > you talking about? > > No matter what you mean, I very much doubt that > > thinking speed is seriously > > affected by linguistic issues (for starters, you may > > want to recheck your > > assumption that the time needed to analyze one unit > > out of a set of two is > > the same as the one needed to analyze one out of a > > set of four houndred). > > > > > > Andreas >Answer:Both syllbal and phoneme are from linear >phonology, as in late twenty century, there is an >nonlinear phonology. J.R.Firth gave an new unit of >sound 'one articulation type'. The idea of both >consonant and vowel being regarded as oral motions in >series was wrong one. It was cheated by letters >created by human being, in fact, when you say 'be' you >can separate 'b' from 'e' . They were uttered >togather. >We say that's a phonetic type or one action of mouth. >I think there are more explanation in: > >http://www.geocities.com/intelligent888/ARTICAL.doc
The above link doesn't seem to work. What the in the blazing is "nonlinear phonology"? The phonolgy of non-segmental languages or what? (BTW, what is "linear phonology"?) I still don't understand what you mean by "phonetic type"/"one articulation type" - from your description it seems like a syllable. As for the "b" and "e" in "be" being articulated together, they are patently NOT articulated simultaneously if that's what you mean. Andreas _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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