Re: USAGE: Thorn vs Eth

On Tue, 2002-07-09 at 23:10, tim talpas wrote:

> But I think even still, I'm under the impression that even Linguistically
> impaired english speakers percieve a difference between /T/ and /D/, in
> initial and final positions, even without functional minimal pairs.
Maybe I'm odd, but I couldn't.

> I think the "with" example may be a result of the first point...
>
> "with it" [wID It]...  but "with hat" [wIT h&t]
>
>
> # All other "th" is /T/.
> #
> # (Anglophones, I'd be interested to hear of exceptions.)
> #
>
> without [wITaUt]
'Without' is just like 'with' in that usage varies. I say /w@D{ot/, for
example.

Tristan.