Re: USAGE: Thorn vs Eth
|From:||tim talpas <tim@...>|
|Date:||Tuesday, July 9, 2002, 13:22|
# Christophe Grandsire scripsit:
# > Well, the simple fact that there isn't any minimal pair between /T/ and /D/,
# A few: "thigh" vs. "thy" is the one usually given. But certainly the
# functional load is very low, as shown by this model:
Though I think that "thy" isn't a very good example, as I don't hear
that word spoken ever. (maybe in some british dialects I don't know about?)
But I think even still, I'm under the impression that even Linguistically
impaired english speakers percieve a difference between /T/ and /D/, in
initial and final positions, even without functional minimal pairs.
# Initial "th" is /D/ in closed-class words only;
Or maybe words of Norse origin? Either works, I guess, though I don't know
the etymology of "though". (akin to icelandic /ToU/ ?)
# Intervocalic "th" is /D/ except in words of Greek origin;
# Final "th" is /D/ if a silent "e" follows, and in some pron. of "with";
I think the "with" example may be a result of the first point...
"with it" [wID It]... but "with hat" [wIT h&t]
# All other "th" is /T/.
# (Anglophones, I'd be interested to hear of exceptions.)