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Re: ConConlanging

From:Pablo Flores <fflores@...>
Date:Saturday, February 13, 1999, 12:28
Joe Mondello wrote:

> I have never known myself to have created a fictional language that > accompanied a culture, but the other day i decided that I absolutely had
to
> attempt a language with a cultural basis, and that this language also had
to
> be a sort of blend of two of my pre-existing languages.
Good luck! [snip] Mem is incredibly difficult to learn and adults learning
> the language will never be capable of understanding sentences at > conversational speed]
How's that? Could we have an example? Exactly who/what are the Mem? Also, will this language be used by all people from birth? Answer, now! ;-)
> this group has been convened to create an actual language rather than an > auxiliary language, and therefore it will be as wrought with its own > eccentricities as English or any other synthesis. I am also considering > having the NdOl Ba'mua [literally council-council in elv and Ko'rea > respectively] create a clean cut auxlang for its own purposes. Has
anyone
> else done this?
Well, I've never created an auxlang. I have sketched a pidgin (maybe becoming a creole later), between Ciravesu (a great empire's language) and Curco (the dialect of my lang Drasele'q spoken in an off-seas province of the empire). The idea is that a despotic cruel governor, tired of (mostly justified) rebellions against him, deported a great chunk of the population and placed them in isolated villages within his own lands back home. The villages were not as much isolated as he expected, so the two languages mixed. But I had to stop the project because I only have about 300 Ciravesu words, and more or less the same Curco words (some of them, incidentally, borrowed from Ciravesu). I've never thought about what would happen if two groups of people deliberately gathered and tried to create a *natural* language. I mean, a natural-looking language. Sorry to say this, but I think this would be possible and feasible only if both groups were composed of conlangers (and not auxlangers). But I'm sure you have a good reason to plan things this way, so good luck again. Anyone else studying the pidgin/creole issue? It's a curious subject! --Pablo Flores