Re: Swedish/Norwegian/Danish 5

>From: BP Jonsson <bpj@...>
>Subject: Re: Swedish/Norwegian/Danish 5
>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 12:41:01 +0200
>For political reasons I would go for mediated Norsk/Svensk orthography,
>mediated vocabulary and Danish pronunciation.
Danish pronunciation!?! That would be like using French pronunciation for
pan-Romance, methinks. Many Scandinavians understand Danish ok, but would
never be caught speaking it. I mean, you don't actually expect Swedes and
Norwegians to speak with full stöd and all, do you?

>I'ld go for pure Old Norse orthography and vocab (whatever "pure Old Norse
>vocab" would be! :-) and mediated Icel/Far/ON pronunciation:
>    (SAMPA transcription except:
>        ' = SAMPA %
>        % = SAMPA 2
>        & = SAMPA {
>        6 = SAMPA Q
>        ^ = SAMPA 6 **and** = SAMPA V
>        9_@ = SAMPA &  (_@ = SAMPA _")
>                (usu. I use 9 for all of SAMPA 9 & 3\ !)
>        W = SAMPA }  (SAMPA W = hw)
>                (usu. I use yw for SAMPA })
>    )
>
>
>    í   i
>    i   e
>    é   je
>    e   ea
>    æ   ai
>    a   a
>    á   oa
>    o   uO
>    ó   ou
>    u   Y
>    ú   u
>    ý   ui
>    y   Yi -- Icel. _hugi_ /hYije/
>    ø   %
>    œ   oy
>    ö   O
>    ei  ei
>    ey  öy
>    au  au
I like this, or some of it. What is [Y]? Is that the IPA "barred u", as 'u'
in modern Icelandic? Funny that you should not let 'y' be [y], which is yet
unassigned.

>        (This is more or less the pronunciation of Old Norse which they
>teach in school in Lucus' Norway! ;-)
I'm very interested in Lucus. What's the political, economic, and cultural
situation there, apart from language? What year is it? Is there a superpower
in Lucus? Are the Nordic countries powerful there?

>Rather someone should engineer a proper orthography for Far -- one without
>ð and other artificial distinctions as a steppingästone to be able to learn
>"Eyjamál"!  Far _maður_ sounds totally different from Icl _maður_, and
>should be spelled _mævur_, just as the Icl word should be _madur_.
Hear hear! Out with the 'ð'! And yes, the Faroese orthography is a sorry
example of Ramsus Rask's "crimes" against the insular language(s). He's also
responsible for the 'ð' in Icelandic, for which he should rot ;)

Oskar

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