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Re: Some new Brithenig words? Narbonosc help?

From:Eric Christopherson <rakko@...>
Date:Wednesday, May 23, 2001, 21:07
On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 06:21:45AM +0000, Raymond Brown wrote:
> Just for fun, you might like to consider how 'cheese' and 'hare' turn up in > Speedwords.
[snip]
> Hare is _zovrap_ > <-- zo = animal > to which we add the "associative suffix" -v, to get _zov_ which must be a > "rodent", according to Dutton. > We can then take the word _rap_ (fast, quick, rapid) to form the compound > _zovrap_ "rapid rodent", i.e. hare. > > Thinks: hares are not the only rapid rodents I've met. Rats & squirrels > seems to travel pretty fast IME.
IIRC hares and rabbits aren't rodents, but lagomorphs. On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 08:01:13PM +0000, Rhaifun yscrifef:
> At 10:23 pm -0500 22/5/01, Eric Christopherson wrote: > [snip] > > > >What then is "Ach y fi!"? > > > > /"aX@vi/ > Welsh expression showing digust or distaste.
Ah, I see. I had thought it was a Brithenig phrase, thus I was wondering why the Chomro needed a new word for fie.
> Also occurs as: Ych y fi /"@X@vi/
> But remember that {f} in Welsh spelling is [v]. The last word is the soft > mutated form of _mi_ = I, me. It's only a coincidence that the last word > is spelled a bit like English "fie".
So <fi> isn't even fie? Well then :)
> The actual word expressing disgust is _ach_ or _ych_ which can occur by > itself, just like English _ugh_. But the longer expression is more fulsome > and makes _my_ felling of disgust clear :)
I like it :) -- Eric Christopherson / *Aiworegs Ghristobhorosyo

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Herman Miller <hmiller@...>
Raymond Brown <ray.brown@...>Speedwords hare (was: Some new Brithenig words? Narbonosc help?)