Re: Help in Determining Asha'ille Typology
From: | Arthaey Angosii <arthaey@...> |
Date: | Thursday, August 7, 2003, 0:27 |
Emaelivpeith Jesse Bangs:
>These are the wrong kind of examples to use for deciding whether a
>language is accusative, ergative, or active.
Oops. Like I said, I don't quite know what to do with these labels. :P
>Can you post translations of these three sentences:
I decided to only post the version with explicit, separate subjects and
objects (rather the also use the conjugations), since that's all you seem
to need. Also, I used "I walk" instead of "I run" -- shouldn't change
anything, right?
>1) I eat food.
>2) I run.
>3) I fall.
1) Échiv en'i ne chodál.
eat self OBJ: food
2) Mmasaev en'i.
walk self
3) Nesheiv en'i.
>An accusative language is one in which "I" in all three sentences is
>marked the same (nominative), while "food" is marked differently
>(accusative).
So Asha'ille looks solidly accusative.
I found this in the Wikipedia:
>Another common classification is whether the language is ergative or
>accusative. If the language has cases, this is determined by whether the
>subject of an intransitive verb has the same case as the subject or the
>object of a transitive verb. If it doesn't, but the order is SVO or OVS,
>this is determined by whether the subject of the intransitive verb is on the
>same side as the subject or the object of the transitive verb.
Now, I realize that anyone could have written that explanation and could
therefore be totally wrong. But if it is correct, then I should point out
that Asha'ille doesn't have cases (at least as I understand the meaning of
what case is). Is Asha'ille accusative anyway?
Thanks for the help, Jesse! :)
Emaelivpeith HS Teoh:
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>I see that you JS got Bach.
Ooo, Teoh arrises from Lurkland too! :) I see your God-as-a-Perl-Script
is at work again, aptly replying to JS Bangs' e-mail with JS Bach. :P
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AA
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