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Re: Alternative histories and paralele universes

From:Hawksinger <hawksinger@...>
Date:Monday, January 4, 1999, 2:54
Carlos Thompson wrote:

> greath cultures but forgot the rol of burden animals. Of course, after=
I have
> an *what if* situation and a conworld, I'll put these new elements in t=
he pot. One thing to remember is that there are a lot of animals that went extinct ca. 12,000 BP. Just keep a few around, such as horses, mastodons, zebras (yes, Equus simplicidens), etc. Keep the existing camelids or add a few of the larger extinct varieties, caribou a la reindeer, domesticate any of a number of swine, capybara, etc. Some of these have modern relatives that are resistant to domestication but given time, will, and the what-if factor, there are/were plenty of=20 candidates for domesticated species.
>=20 > If I'm not mistaken, the first settlement of America occured at the beg=
ining of
> the last gracial period, some 30000 years ago (probably modern human be=
ings Evidence is growing for that age, especially from Monte Verde but far from widely accepted.=20
> existed in the Yangtse-Hoangho, Indo, Tigris-Eufrates and Nilo basines =
that
> trigger the formation of greath cultures. Big rivers that flooded seem=
s to be
> one of them, burden animals another one, a critical mass of people...? >=20
I would go with a combination of factors that become self feeding and contribute to each other. Agriculture, critical mass of people, abundant resource access (whether through trade or ownership), and=20 being on/near trade routes. Some of these are chicken or the egg situations obviously.
> that would have helped where bisons lived. One of todays most fertil r=
egions in
> the world is the middle USA, I think if the propper conditions of a big=
river,
> domesticated bisons (buffalo), fertil land and enough people, an cultur=
e could
> have developed.
Several did, the Adena, the Natchez for example. One of my first projects was for a group that never got a name of their own, I just called them the Mississippi River Empire (MRE). That name survives today as the Mr=E9, last great enemy of the Nowans and largest city in Nowapan.
>=20
> rudimentary wheels.
I agree with this one, but there have been a few cases where wheel use has diminished with the introduction of camels, sorry, don't remember the name of a very interesting book.
>=20 > When the Conquistadors came, the situation wouln't have been as easy. =
Viruela Have the conquistadors go the other way. Maybe some nice Aztecs running amuck in Europe. I read an alternative history novel a few years ago that had Cortez switching allegiance, helping the Aztecs, who eventually became the most powerful nation on earth. Only published in England I believe, and of course, I don't remember its title either. PS, How should one pronounce 'Chlewey' and where does the name come from?? --=20 Brad Coon hawksinger@fwi.com http://www.fortunecity.com/rivendell/everquest/624 My Conlang and Conculture pages http://www.ipfw.indiana.edu/east1/coon/web/index.htm Most of my pages including my home page http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Gorge/7264 My Outdoor and Primitive Skills Pages http://members.tripod.com/~Hawksinger My wine pages. "Life without adventure is merely existance."--Hawksinger