> Abel wrote:
> <<
> The other day I was trying some fancy pronunciations for a couple
> consonants
> (some not-so-fancy ones, too), only to be surprised by that fact that
> both
> my /s/ and my /z/ sound quite noticeably different when I round my
> lips when
> I pronounce them.
>
> So, is there anything like rounded /s/ or /z/? I am hoping to use
> this as a
> phonemical distinction in some conlang. And what would be a good
> symbol for
> them? Perhaps, z-ring and s-ring? ;-)
> >>
>
> Oh, yeah, tons of natlangs have them. I think that's actually the
> appropriate way to use the "w" diacritic in the IPA (different
> from the consonant simply followed by "w"). I don't know
> which English dialects it is, but several of them are supposed
> to have [S_w] for "sh", but it certainly doesn't sound like "shw"
> would (compare "schwa" and "shaw").
>
> -David
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