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Re: Relative clauses in Orelynna (part 2)

From:James Worlton <jworlton@...>
Date:Wednesday, February 4, 2004, 4:28
Philippe Caquant wrote:
> How do you express ideas like:
I'm only filling in the Orēlynna of some of them because I lack the lexical items for a lot of it. However, the grammar is sufficient to supply interlinears for how most of it would work.
> - I see the river you crossed over
suno hulānueþmy go iþāndot al eþa. see.I river-the.ACC REL over it.LOC
> - I see the river you were strolling along
suno hulānueþmy go hunrykat il eþa. see.I river-the.ACC REL beside it.LOC
> - I see the roof the tile has fallen from
see.I roof-the.ACC REL [has fallen] it.ELATIVE
> - I see the roof the crows are flying over
see.I roof-the.ACC REL flying crows over it.LOC
> - I see the table the cat is hiding under
see.I table-the.ACC REL hiding cat-the under it.LOC
> - I see the man whose song is known worldwide
suno anudomy go koþedal andal oðel ēlynnadasa see.I man-the.ACC REL knows* humans all song.his[GEN] *I don't have a working passive voice yet, but this would not be passive anyway.
> - I see the girl the guys fighted for
Do you mean: I see the girl the guys fought over/about? suno anukamy* go ðogikedalt andolmy la dea. see.I woman-the.ACC REL REFL.fought guys-the about 3PS.DAT(oblique) *The word for 'girl' (anhyka) means strictly a girl-child, which I don't think is appropriate in this context.
> - I see the girl you couldn't live without
suno anukamy go bintidoþ damo na galeneyr see.I woman-the.ACC REL 3PS.ABESS. [to] live
> - I see the reason the reason why (the reason for > which) the whole damned thing doesn't work...
I haven't worked this semantic construction out yet (the 'why' and the interjection).
> (Let's stop it and have a break)
Good idea. Actually, I need vocabulary and some more semantic/syntactical holes closed in the grammar. -- ============= James Worlton "We know by means of our intelligence that what the intelligence does not comprehend is more real than what it does comprehend." --Simone Weil