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Re: A Conlang, created by the group?

From:Pablo Flores <fflores@...>
Date:Monday, October 12, 1998, 14:27
Christophe Grandsire wrote:
>>Don't you want antipatient as well to save verbs and cases like in Japanese ? >> >>mieru > miru > miseru > misaseru >> >>to appear > to see > to make it appear (= to show) > to make him see (to >show something) >> >>What are the suggestions of Pablo, Herman & alia ? > > I was thinking of something like this for adjectives. As I already >said, I like adjectives behaving like verbs. If we use a differentiation >like perfect/imperfect, we could make: > >topic (or patient?)+ perfect-adjective: to be+adjective. >topic (or patient?)+ imperfect-adjective: to become+adjective. >agent+patient+ imperfect-adjective: to make someone become+adjective. >agent+patient+ imperfect-adjective: to have made so become+adjective.
I atrongly agree.
> I think it could easily be used for every style of verb (at least >intransitive ones. By the way, shall we use transitive/intransitive >differentiation? I think it can be changed).
I think this could be distinguished by case. I-undergoer rise-predicate "I rise" I-agent the-chair-patient raise-predicate "I raise the chair" (here "rise" and "raise" would be the *same* root). --Pablo Flores begin 600 WINMAIL.DAT M>)\^(B,0`0:0" `$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y 0```````#H``$(@ <` M& ```$E032Y-:6-R;W-O9G0@36%I;"Y.;W1E`#$(`0V ! `"`````@`"``$$ MD 8`/ $```$````,`````P``, 0````+``\.``````(!_P\!````4@`````` M``"!*Q^DOJ,0&9UN`-T!#U0"`````$-O;G-T<G5C=&5D($QA;F=U86=E<R!, M:7-T`%--5% `0T].3$%.1T!"4D]73E9-+D)23U=.+D5$50```!X``C !```` M!0```%--5% `````'@`#, $````:````0T].3$%.1T!"4D]73E9-+D)23U=. M+D5$50````,`%0P!`````P#^#P8````>``$P`0```!T````G0V]N<W1R=6-T M960@3&%N9W5A9V5S($QI<W0G``````(!"S !````'P```%--5% Z0T].3$%. M1T!"4D]73E9-+D)23U=.+D5$50```P``.0`````+`$ Z`0````(!]@\!```` M! ````````25.0$$@ $`)0```%)%.B!!($-O;FQA;F<L(&-R96%T960@8GD@ M=&AE(&=R;W5P/P`@# $%@ ,`#@```,X'"@`,``L`&P`U``$`1P$!(( #``X` M``#.!PH`# `+`!L`-0`!`$<!`0F `0`A````,3 W.3 U1C9"138Q1#(Q,3E# M,D$T-#0U-3,U-# P,# `R08!`Y &`)P%```4````"P`C```````#`"8````` M``L`*0```````P`N```````#`#8``````$ `.0# @[-_[/6]`1X`< `!```` M)0```%)%.B!!($-O;FQA;F<L(&-R96%T960@8GD@=&AE(&=R;W5P/P`````" M`7$``0```!8````!O?7L?ZKV!7D48;X1TIPJ1$535 `````>`!X,`0````4` M``!33510`````!X`'PP!````&P```&9F;&]R97- =&%U+G=A;6%N:2YA<&,N M;W)G```#``80C;852@,`!Q"F`P``'@`($ $```!E````0TA225-43U!(14=2 M04Y$4TE215=23U1%.D1/3E193U5704Y404Y425!!5$E%3E1!4U=%3$Q43U-! M5D5615)"4T%.1$-!4T533$E+14E.2D%004Y%4T4_34E%4E5-25)534E310`` M```"`0D0`0```/D#``#U`P``U0D``$Q:1G5V(Q'H_P`*`0\"%0*D`^0%ZP*# M`% 3`U0"`&-H"L!S971N,@8`!L,"@S($1@(`<'!R<3$@"%4'L@*#,_L$1Q/[ M?0J ",\)V0* "H$##;$+8&YG,3 S-$$*]&QI,30T`M%I/BT9TPS0&=,+51+Q M<S$V. J@`V!T!9 %0$-H`040<W1O<&AE(/1'<@!P9 "0%T +1A3QT1NQ("!W M' (Z&P\<%)L*CQX(/A\?'!0^1 (@^B<%0'D(8!Z@`' %0"1Q/04@8230"? D MD00@=V4*; ,@(!S ('-A=C,=`"90<F($(!U!(&,W)7 'D1FP:QT`"X @2MIA M(+!N!Y =`#\@AR%OWR)_(X(HKRF_(OMM")$D0/P^("Z +K41\"\F)S$NL/\K MGRRO*L\PSS'?(S<F`2@0_'!E"L$NX"8""> V] # )R>B))$VI"@])?-H;[1W M*3>): =P-T,H',#_,W\TCQNZ.3(F( -P$@`Z,/T8\"DZ[SO_,J\^_T /(S<^ M5Q' ))$70"7P'/%S=3QG9P>0)- "( 0@;V:,(% !H!;0+"!(!)#9`X(@)B2@ M&;!A*(]"G]\?KT?_20\;YTUV2211!"#]/E)K/G%&$CX7)W0^400@HP(0!<!A M9&H<,6DF4/!S+B!!!"!.``= %T"]4*!Y2J]+OST+"W!D1J!'3@`G@U"H(&)E M$<!V-T^')H-10$E&,"6@('7K*&%'D&0&D&8$D"4Q!S"_1<)2+U,_&[HG@S:P M<EC ?1Q +P=P7+5&H%@!!:!U]FPG`#?B.EF/6I])[U\?YV O' 4<P6EC., % ML23UJ#\I*URF+5"G.B7R]5: *U"G+F&O8K]CSV3>_UTW9D\%H > 9U]H;VE_ M'!3V8460`C K)/5L'V:G-^/_/A("(!T`;;]NSV_?<.]Q__]S#U:A'0``P VP M/@%TWW7N;QN$89\>1%&1= -@&/!L_GEXP0G1=>: _'=?31].8_\X(EX4-L ` MD(!A5H!8(B<`G5!B92:!@' <L'EL'0"_1B$F@CC 1+&'$"5P='Z/_W</&[H+ M@( 0`')0\D80*$'=44!"@'!%(B1@>4:@.3#_!T #(%@%BUA=((M)B%^);_L; MNEB=/X0[`Y&%P1&Q&/#]"8 I=>@+&7X??RR$9% 3WUX4A<%8D$6Q&/!U! `< M\(^9(8!P)R* [4DM=1U0F0209V\401R192T3H&\)@&L0)0"/5B).`)QR(O>: MWGC311(M$;$=@)RP)05_'3"<CYV5H-)%$Y_CGCTH^QSP1/$BG?,FTZ20H-*D MX+9WF/9%(BHF, > *IQ@3F\<$)3GIVPM+493(%Y&%M$'D)4%%F$`JD ````# M`! 0``````,`$1 `````0 `',"!-S+SJ];T!0 `(,,"#LW_L];T!'@`]``$` 8```%````4D4Z( `````#``TT_3<``$O# ` end