Re: A Conlang, created by the group?

De: Mathias M. Lassailly <lassailly@...>
Fecha: Viernes 9 de Octubre de 1998 03:17

[...]
>Ok. How may of us prefer suffixes and how many prefixes ? If no majority :
>
>Maybe we could split like : cases are postfixed and tags showing parts of
> speach (verb/adverb/adjective -if any/noun, etc) are prefixed. I've never
> tried it but I know Japanese heavily use demonstrative front-topics
> resuming to different part of speach everywhere.
I like it... but I would vote for part of speach, and gender postfixed and
cases prefixed.  Also, I would voto for a non-traditional case system like
  agent
  patient
  undergoer
  theme
  static predicate
  dinamic predicate
  modifier
  clasifier
  determinant

and some small particles (prepositions?) to extend some meanings.

>> >Also, how about word order? SVO, OVS, VOS, what? Head-final or =
>> head-first?
>> >I think everyone should take some piece of the language and work out a =
>> sketch.
>
>You're perfectly right, it makes things go faster. However I think
> head/final pattern should rather be a collective decision precedent,
> however long it may be. Let's vote.
>
>> I think it would be interesting to try SOV, with Japanese-like syntax for
>> things like modifiers and relative clauses,
[...]

The case system would give some freedom, but I like the Idea of a standard
word order, like SOV... or in my case system Agent-Patient-Theme-Predicate,
and Modifier-Main morphem syntax.

>> >We have
>> >
>> >1 noun inflection
>> >2 verb inflection
A way of mixing them?
Tense could be used in either nominal phrases (Agent, Patient, etc) or
predicates.
Aspect: perfect aspect mark = definite article mark?, how about other
aspects?
Gender: animate/inanimate gender = dinamic/static predicates?

>> >3 adjectives (like nouns? like verbs? comparatives?)
>> >4 word order
>> >5 stress, tone, vowel length (?)
>> >
>> >
>> >--Pablo Flores
>>
[...]
>> Should we have grammatical gender? It wouldn't have to be as traditional
=
>> as
>> masculine/feminine/neuter (one of my neglected language sketches has four
>> genders of "north, south, east, west"), but it's something to consider
>> before we go very far with the morphology.
>
>'Genders' may be classes like 'thought', 'feeling', 'material phenomenon',
> 'action', 'physical state', 'yellow strawberry' (rare occurence),
'conlanger'
> (rarer occurence), etc.:-)
>
>Mathias
What about genders and subgenders?
 Animate
   Person (any thing able to speak, wath ever speak would mean)
     Human being
     Deity
     Corporation
     Alien
   Animal
     Domestic compaining animal
     Cattle
     Wild animal
     Insect and other small animals
     Microscopic animals
   Weather and natural phenomena
 Inanimate
   Living inanimate things
     Parts of animate beings
     Plants
   Tangible non-living things
   Intangible things

Any body has make experiment with subgenders?

-- Carlos Th